In recent interview for Vlad Tv, Chaka Khan got very candid with Luenell about the iconic singer’s journey to fame.

“In addition to speaking about her not being attracted to collaborator Rick James, Chaka also spoke about something else the two artists had in common: drugs,” Madame Noire’s Veronica Wells writes. “It just so happens that it’s a history she shares with Luenell as well.”

Chaka Khan explained, “I used to go to Rick James house and I used to go to Natalie Cole’s house. I used to go to occasional underground, after hours joints. I think part of the reason we’re still here is because some of what was in them drugs was formaldehyde. That formaldehyde type of effect.” To which Luenell responded, “We’re preserved like fossils from the inside.”

Luenell added, “There was a time when you were heavier. You’ve lost a lot of weight. Do you feel like there was any discrimination against you when you were thicker?” Chaka Khan replied, “I got a lot of attention when I lost the weight because I lost the weight. When I say Ima do something, Ima do it.”

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